On 4 Jan 2004 18:22:29 -0800, (Alejandro
Magno) wrote:

(BUFDRVR) wrote in message
PAC III works fine, once again, our interest in Soviet military hardware is to
study how to defeat it, not copy it. When's the last time you saw the Soviets
or Russians produce something and then a very similar copy comes out in the
west? Never. I can't even count the western copied hardware in the Russian
military. Boy that Blackjack sure looks like a B-1B doesn't it?


See how "happy" Americans were bad mouthing Tu-160 Blackjack until the
poster in message 58 made a good comparison between them, few messages
later, the "happy" americans gave up. I do not want to repeat the same
conversation, see the results he
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/984847/posts

More he http://mustangman5.netfirms.com/rplanes.html
"That's the TU-160 Blackjack. It looks almost identical to the Western
B1A bomber. However, the blackjack is over 25% bigger than the B1A,
and can acheive the same speed, and a higher payload, you have to give
credit for that. The largest of everything is usually Russian"

Happy ?



You left out the part where they claimed the US copied the Mig-25 when
they designed the F-15. This despite the fact that Mikoyan himself
wanted to start with the A-5 Vigilante (a US design) as a starting
point when designed the Mig-25. And lets not forget the F-108 that
the Mig-25 also resembles.



Here's an even better one:

Speed over a closed circuit of 5000 km with 30000 kg payload : 1054.21
km/h

Date of flight: 17/09/1987
Pilot: H. Brent HEDGPETH (USA)
Crew: Robert A. CHAMBERLAIN (copilot)
Course/place: Palmdale, CA (USA)

Aircraft:
Rockwell B-1B (4 General Electric F 101-GE-102, 14 700 kg each)
Registered 'S/N70'



Speed over a closed circuit of 5000 km with 30000 kg payload : 1017.80
km/h

Date of flight: 28/05/1990
Pilot: Serguei OSSIPOV (USSR)
Crew: D.N. MATVEEV (USSR)
Course/place: Podmoskovnoe Aerodrome (USSR)

Aircraft:
Tupolev Aircraft "70N-304" (Tupolev TU-160 "Blackjack") (4 Model "P",
25 000 kg each)



Hmmm. The Blackjack had lower performance despite it being 25% bigger
and I'm sure they did everything they could to beat the B-1b's record
since the B-1's record already existed.

Happy?