On May 10, 2:02*am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On May 9, 10:14 pm, frank wrote:



Frank you have a lot of stimulating ideas.
Ken

Best one was when Ronnie was president. They decided to dust off the
old how to survive a nuclear war bit. drive 40 minutes to bunkers that
would have food, water for weeks. Single road to get there.

I told them I'd drive home, put the Nikon on a tripod, get a six pack
and wait for a good shot of the flash and cloud. They were not
amused.

I think they wanted *volunteers to do a test one weekend. See if
everybody could drive out there. Don't remember if they ever did. Knew
the engineer who was to look at 'fallout shelters' one was one of
those old hangars with glass windows. You know the type. All over the
AF bases. They weren't thrilled when he asked when fallout shelters
would have glass windows. Not to mention what the probability of glass
breaking.

About that same time I considered taking a position designing
buildings to be resistant to *"severe overpressures", like 100kt
1 mile away, that I regard as very important research since it can
translate into civil building codes to improve structural
survivability
during hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes, the nuke scenario
being a good excuse to pay for the research.

At least White Sands took it seriously enough to practice it every
year. Printed tons of paper manuals. Went out and played war games.
When was done, had annual hunt for 7 - 10 days of deer if you were
base personnel. Can't beat that. Pretty much blew off *October as far
as getting real work done. But for a training and doctrine base, took
stuff seriously. Ever if we were an AF unit on it.

Do you think the Atomic Age has arrived?
Ken

No, but at least they had their head in right spot. Could be anything,
nuclear, terrorism, weather related. Major traffic incident. Anything.
Don't train or talk to people, real mess when something happens and
you find out can't communicate, talk to hospitals, find barricades,
whatever.

County I used to live in had bus run into a semi, mass casualty.
Luckily they had planned for that, all agencies worked together. Sort
of woke up the, nothing ever happens here crowd.

Like most places we sort of talk about stuff, when we actually sat
down and looked as all the classified we had to destruct, was a whole
different game rather than saying we'd do it.

Luckily we had a lot of diesel for the generators and would use that
but Pueblo and the recent China Navy aircraft capture shows how some
stuff is just hard to get rid of. Best I guess would be data wipes
then just turn the cooling off so circuits overhead and fry. Or
engineer that in. Add in something corrosive and ability to dump parts
out of an aircraft or ship into the briny deep easily.