On Jun 13, 12:21*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:46*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:



On Jun 11, 5:44*pm, SF wrote:

I'm, running See You Mobile on the HP310 as a backup NAV system, and I
really like it except for the failure to get a contest start in 6 out
of 6 attempts at R5E. *Does anyone know the secret combination to
getting it give you a contest start??

It is not clear from the question what the exact symptoms are. *If it
is more involved it is probably better to ask this question on the
Naviter SeeYou Mobile support forum. And as others have suggested I
expect that playing with the simulator will help you a lot.

When you say "Get a US Contest Start" are you getting a start at all
or just not one that complies with the exact USA rules?

During a Start you should see a white banner appear at the of the
screen with a start time and speed and the Start box (which looks like
a navbox) *should show the start time in place of "--:--:--" and the
nice lady saying "Task Started". Are you getting that behavior?

Are you displaying task property navboxes (like tDelta, tRemain, tDis,
etc.) and seeing them behave as you expect or is it just that you
don't see a Start announcement and Start box pop up? (the later is
working as designed if you have previously pressed the Start button).

Were you starting out the top or the start cylinder and expecting
SeeYou Mobile to do a start then? It won't, it will only start out the
side of the cylinder AFAIK, but to confuse things SeeYou (PC software)
will score starts out the top and can be set to somewhat *follow USA
style start rules)

Have you been pressing *the "Start --:--:--" button? Or the start
button with a time value in it and then surprised that you don't see
another Start button when you actually try to Start?

Is there a task loaded on the PDA. Yes sorry, a question equivalent to
"is the PC plugged in" - and it should be obvious since you should see
the loaded task on the map display. Go to MenuTaskToolsLoad
Task... *to pick one of the predefined tasks (with an iPAQ 310 usually
written to the SD card from SeeYou on your PC and then plugged into
the 310).

Do you have the correct OZ settings for the start? Do you see the
start cylinder displayed on the map (default ugly semi-transparent
pink circle).

Another issue (which won't be causing all your problems) is if SeeYou
Mobile thinks you have finished a task (or maybe it's just made it to
the first turnpoint, regardless if you press the Start button and you
try to repeat the task it won't give you a start. *The only way that I
know for sure to force SeeYou Mobile to allow you to run another task
is to restart the Application (MenuExit). Maybe there are better
ways.

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As other mentioned using the Simulator built into SeeYou Mobile can be
useful in exploring the software behavior. *You can also play with the
SeeYou Mobile Simulator on a PC, although I think the exact versions
of the PC simulator might not always keep up with the latest SeeYou
Mobile releases for PDAs and PNAs. For the ultimate simulation hook
your PDA or PNA up to your PC (using a serial port or over bluetooth)
and run a soaring simulator like Condor or Silent wings and feed the
simulated NMEA output to your PDA or PNA. For a (painfully) detailed
description of how to use Silent Wings on a Mac to drive SeeYou Mobile
on a PDA seehttp://www.darrylramm.com/2008/12/04/silent-wings-on-a-mac-to-seeyou-...

Darryl

Oops and I need to correct myself.... I forgot the Start reset
behavior (I never use it).

You don't have to restart SeeYou... If you do want to do another start
after you press the Start button. You can go to MenuTask and select
the Start waypoint at the top of the page and then press the Goto
button at the bottom of the page.

This is resetting the logical position in the task and is different
than just changing the Goto on a map page, that won't do what you
want.

I'll be quiet now...

Darryl

I know how to restart the task, from the task menu, sometimes it works
and sometimes it doesn't

Scott