On Dec 23, 10:06*pm, bildan wrote:
The newest data trends seem to be pushing the models
toward even more extreme outcomes.

That's interesting take... even the CRU admit that current world wide
surface temps are running below the expectations of their models (last
decade).

Also, atmospheric temps have *never* shown the expected signature of
CO2 based warming (warming at altitude vs surface). Ask your NCAR
guys about that.

Also ask them what in blazes happened to the medieval warm period.
The "hockey stick" guys have completely removed from their charts.
WTF is up with that? This isn't "science". It's rapidly turning into
simple minded fear mongering.

You set the "standard of proof" for the models pretty low, Bill.
We're talking the whole of modern industrial society, the whole of
modern agriculture on the block here. Drastic action would ordinarily
seem to demand a proportionately high standard of proof. But oh, yes,
"there's not time." Ah.

-Evan Ludeman / T8