"Mike Ash" wrote

You want to know who's destroying the group? It's Bertie and the others
who just go for full out, no-holds-barred insult fests.

Without chum, sharks rarely go into a feeding frenzy, within sight of man.
So, why tolerate a feeding frenzy? Get rid of the chum's source.

I see nothing wrong with some on-topic discussion just because one of
the participants is a jerk with no sense of his own limitations. It is
possible to participate in a conversation with him without letting it
get out of control.

Really? Name one thread, where a discussion with him did not degenerate
into one of his famous bait and switch strategies, with all who engage going
ballistic from his rediculous tactics. He lives to argue topics that have
no natural argument. He will not listen to logic, or valid rebuttals to his
views, when it is all said and done. That sounds like out of control, to
me, and that is how every one of the threads he jumps into ends. (he jumps
into EVERY thread that has a good discussion going. EVERY one, EVERY time,
destroying the discussion in the process.)

You want to save the group? Start some on-topic posts.

Pretty hard, when so many have left out of frustration. Much of the
frustration comes from people continuing to support and enable trolls. If
he was ignored, the stupid posts from him would stop, people would come back
and stay, and many good on topic discussions would be taking place.
--
Jim in NC