On May 14, 8:19*pm, "vaughn" wrote:
"birdog" wrote in message

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I can't see pilots EVER stepping directly from a *sim into the left seat.

One relevant sim test that I have been proposing for years is to simply do it
the other way around; go from the left seat to the sim! *As an initial test of
any sim, simply have a real pilot (but one who does not fly sims) who is fully
qualified and current on the plane being simulated, sit down and attempt a
takeoff, pattern, and landing. *If the "real" pilot can't do that simple task on
the first try, (as the pilot surely could in the real airplane) then the sim
fails .

Vaughn

I did exactly that. I have several thousand hours in an M20J, flew the
sim version. The thrill was gone! To be fair, I know the control
positions in the real Mooney, the keyboard and joystick crap in the
sim didn't work well for me. For that matter, d r in the sim -- no
nav for a while -- was awful. I couldn't easily find my home airport!

I did loop the sim, something I'd not do in the real thing. Having
flown some aerobatics, the sim loop didn't work well for me. No
lightening of the shoulder harness going over the top, no increased Gs
on the bottom half.

I fly enough actual IMC so don't need the sim to learn how to keep
needles where they should be, and unusual attitude recovery practice
is much more real with a safety pilot than in a sim. (My safety pilot
friend is a fiend. When he says "It's your airplane" you can be sure
things are pretty much at limits and your inner ear has no idea which
way is up. Of course I do the same thing to him.)

I sold my MSFS to a guy who bought it for his kid.