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Old January 25th 04, 12:38 AM
Dudley Henriques
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This is about it as I remember it . It amounted to keeping it down to a low
roar, using the corridors and restricted areas when at all possible; not
****ing off the surrounding areas; the FAA; and not ****ing off Admiral
Brown! :-) I'm not sure how the AF guys fared under AF 60.16. Probably about
the same I would imagine. The whole idea was to allow for the performance of
the airplanes while not abusing the regulation. It seemed to work well as
long as everybody had their head screwed on straight. I'm pretty sure it's
still this way, but there have been incidents. The Viper hitting that Cessna
in Florida might have changed things a bit.
Dudley

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote...

Things have undoubtedly changed since my last military flight, but the
applicable section of AFR 60-16 which was the governing regulation on
flight operations was that the max airspeed below 10,000 feet MSL was
250 KIAS unless the aircraft operating manual required higher. "We
don' need no steenkin' waivers."


The Navy version is OPNAVINST 3710.7. The latest version I have is .7S,

dated
15 Nov 2001:

"1.2.3 Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR).

"Naval aircraft shall be operated in accordance with applicable provisions

of
FAR, Part 91, except:

. . .

"b. Where exemptions or authorizations issued to the Department of the
Navy/Department of Defense permit deviation from FAR.

Exemptions/authorizations
currently on file that allow deviation from FAR, Part 91.

"(1) Section 91.117 (Aircraft Speed). Operation of naval aircraft at

speeds
in excess of limits imposed by section 91.117 shall be governed by

paragraph
5.1.4 of this instruction."


The pertinent section of 5.1.4 is:

"5.1.4.2 Policy. In accordance with FAA authorization, flight operations

below
10,000 feet MSL at an indicated airspeed in excess of 250 knots are

authorized
under the following conditions:

"a. Within restricted areas.

"b. Within military operations areas.

"c. When operating on DOD/FAA mutually developed and published routes.

"d. When operating on DOD-developed and DOD-published VR routes. Such

routes
shall be established for specific missions and used only by designated

units
when the provisions of a through c above will not accommodate the required
national defense mission. Routes shall be developed and published in

accordance
with DOD/FAA mutually developed criteria.

"e. When operating within large-scale exercises or on short-term

special
missions approved by commanders listed in paragraph 5.1.4.3. Such

exercises or
missions may be authorized provided that coordination is effected to

ensure
awareness on the part of the nonparticipating flying public.

"f. If the airspeed required or recommended in the aircraft NATOPS

manual to
maintain safe maneuverability is greater than the maximum speed described

in
FAR, Part 91.117, the aircraft may be operated at that speed. Where the

required
or recommended speed is given as a range, the lower part of the speed

range
consistent with good operating practice should be used. The primary

purpose of
this provision is to accommodate climbs, descents, and terminal area

operations
and shall not be used to circumvent the provisions of sub-paragraphs

above.
Under no circumstance will this safe maneuverability provision be

construed as
authorization for individual pilots or mission commanders to conduct other
flights below 10,000 feet in excess of 250 knots."