On Sep 13, 9:48*am, Richard wrote:
On Sep 13, 6:32*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Sep 13, 9:10*am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 13, 7:30*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
Well if the vario does not include a GPS and IGC flight recorder at
least as as an option that's likely the end of any interest for many
potential purchasers who are looking for a C302 replacement.
I know the NK CLearNav includes a GPS and flight recorder, if they
just want to sell varios to people who already own a ClearNav that a
fine, but a market limiting plan. I know they have been working with a
few people for product feedback but again with no market to damage
they could be getting very wide feedback from discussing specs more
openly.
So the next obvious question is is there a GPS option so the vario can
pass out enhanced NMEA data with wind and other data for PDA and other
flight computer users?
I'd also hope that a really new generation vario/flight computer would
be capable of pulling together air data etc. and logging that to the
IGC file for post-flight wind construction and other analysis.
Darryl
On Sep 13, 4:58*am, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi,
I heard from NK last week that they hope to be selling the vario in several
(3 to 4 months) and flight testing it in 4 to 6 weeks. *I imagine there will
be a beta test period, but NK has not mentioned that.
I don't know many details about it yet. *My understanding is that it will be
a speed-to-fly variometer with audio and averager and will communicate with
the ClearNav over the high-speed CANbus network. *It will not include a GPS
or logger.
I can't wait to fly with one.
Best Regards,
Paul Remde
"Darryl Ramm" wrote in message
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On Sep 12, 5:43 pm, brianDG303 wrote:
Does anyone have a clue as to the features of the NK vario? I even
looked on wikileaks- nothing.
I've heard unconfirmed rumors it is going to beep.
We are passing the point that not talking about features is harming
the NK story. Is it or is it not a real product? They have no current
vario product line to harm so some details and realistic schedule
setting cannot hurt.
Darryl
Darryl,
that is my feeling exactly, with that limited feature set I'll hope to
run GPS from Powerflarm and keep my B40, while waiting for a much
better vario option. Which might be more like the Tasman V2000
Variometer with FP10 Flight Pack than the described NK vario.
Brian
If it was me I'd also look at doing every possible thing to make this
a future proof central data hub of the glider panel - including a
Flarm input that can take the Flarm NMEA out with traffic data and
merge in with the vario provided air-data (like the K6 MUX can do).
And I'd have an on-board NMEA bluetooth option as well as RS-232 out.
Maybe a headless versions with no vario display for limited panel
space/use of a PDA or computer display for the vario. All that may be
too much to implement in a first gen product but much of it is
firmware so I'd be building int the capability to add that firmware
over time (for a fee). *Basically what I would like is a vario/air-
data/GPS/logger central data-hub on/behind the panel that is a modern
open/flexible version of essentially what a C302 is today. Oh and make
it emulate the C302 dataport commands for existing 3rd party software
compatibility. A version without an internal GPS might be an option,
but Cambridge tried that with the 301 vario and I suspect had problems
justifying the cost/margins (or was there really no demand?).
Of course it's easy to build something on paper...
Darryl- Hide quoted text -
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The new LX Navigation Varios & MiniMap meet many of your paper vario
specifications
The LX166 will accept any NMEA input including flarm and PowerFlarm,
and output to about any display device including the Ultimate, PDA
etc, LX mini Map.
The LX1606 is very similar. *Both vario displays have a stepper motor
vario needle and a color LCD for other information.
www.lxnavigation.si
Richardwww.craggyaero.com
Richard
I don't want a minimap. Absolutely zero interest in that. I want to
use my PDA/PNA for that and in future I suspect an Android device.
Gotta remember the http:// part for google Groups compatibility, so
here it is again
http://www.lxnavigation.si/avionics/
It looks really interesting and on the right track, I see it has a GPS
does it pass enhanced NMEA data like TAS out to a PDA over RS-232 or
bluetooth? I don't know what the LX data buss is but I have no
interest in using that unless it gets me easily to RS-232 and/or
bluetooth. What about an IGC flight recorder capability?
Thanks
Darryl