Mark wrote:
On Sep 16, 11:24Â*am, wrote:
Mark wrote:
On Sep 15, 8:04Â*pm, wrote:

You said you were going to buy a LSA, not build one, which means the
airworthiness certificate would be invalid.

There are numerous LSA's which you can buy near completion,
then finish them, becoming the builder on record, and still meet
the 50-50 rule.

It is called the 51% rule, not the 50-50 rule.

Technicality.

Last I looked there are no kit LSA's which meet the 51% rule for the
simple reason that the 51% rule does not apply to kit built LSA's.

Yes, I have personal knowledge of this.

Actually what came to mind is the scenerio where companies like
Arion and some other's have Builder Assist. I have encountered
unfinished projects for sale.

There are lots of finished and unfinished kits available.

You can buy one someone else built.

The point is to get the benefits, such as qualify for the repairman
certificate, you have to have done the majority of the work yourself.


The RV-12 may, but it isn't available yet so that is unknown.

And to be the builder and meet the 51% rule, you have to do 51% of the
work, not buy something 98% complete and just do the last 2%.

That isn't what Nick Otterback, Arion's product development manager
told me when I asked him in person. The final authority would be the
FAA, but thus far I have been told different.

The FAA says you need to sign and notarize FAA Form 8130-12 attesting to
the fact that you have completed at least 51% of the operations required.

If you build one and invalidate it as a LSA, now you have to go to the
FAA and somehow get the thing cerificated as an exprimental after the
fact. Â*Good luck on that.

What's an exprimental? Â*New category?

Experimental is what most people call the airplanes that the FAA calls
amateur built which get as label saying "experimental" on them.

Grin, I was just messing with you. Your spelling and grammar
are consistently off, i.e., you'd properly say "an" LSA, not "a" LSA.
I probably know every experimental plane there is. You wrote...
"exprimental", and "cerificated". That's baby gibberish.

You are flattering yourself if you think I would bother to waste the time
on spell checking in my response to your posts.

Actually, you are not allowed to modify anything on a LSA.

The manufacturer will dictate that. (remember..."an" LSA).
A further examination of allowances is worthwhile. Many flight
schools that only offer PP certification are approaching
illiteracy on this subject.

YOU can not modify a LSA.

The manufacturer of a LSA may make a change in the design and make that
change either optional or mandatory for existing aircraft.

How do you know when to use the indefinite articles?

"A" goes before all words that begin with consonants.

* a cat
* a dog
* a purple onion
* a buffalo
* a big apple

With one exception: Use "an" before unsounded h.

* an honorable peace
* an honest error

"An" goes before all words that begin with vowels:

* an apricot
* an egg
* an Indian
* an orbit
* an uprising

With two exceptions: When u makes the same sound as the y in you, or o makes the same sound as w in won, then a is used.

* a union
* a united front
* a unicorn
* a used napkin
* a U.S. ship
* a one-legged man

The phonetic quality of the letter "L" makes the use of a versus an debatable.


--
Jim Pennino

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