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Old October 3rd 10, 10:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
David Salmon[_2_]
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Default Wind information

At 19:15 02 October 2010, brianDG303 wrote:
On Oct 2, 10:55=A0am, David Salmon wrote:
I use a PNA running LK8000 and also an SN10. Sometimes there are quite

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differences, but generally the two agree fairly well, within 10 deg

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kts.
Dave

At 16:25 02 October 2010, Brad wrote:

Throughout this season I've flown with several friends that use
different instruments that calculate wind information while in

flight.

I use a GPS driving a PDA running LK8000 (I don't use the new true
wind function). Ron uses an SN-10, Dan uses a PDA running Seeyou and
getting wind information via GPS and the Tasman FP module, Brian uses
an iPAQ 310 running Seeyou and using only GPS wind (internal GPS
chip).


My observations are that generally we are all within 2 to 7 knots and
5 to 15 degrees of speed and direction off when we report to each
other what we are seeing at that moment. The guys using GPS only have
the widest spread and the guys using pitot/static/GPS seem to be
closer and I feel more accurate. However even with my GPS driven wind
I still feel fairly confident that it is giving me very useful
information. I.E. coming back off the flats in Eastern WA heading

into
a strong headwind it was nice to know the ridge up ahead was going to
give me ridge lift when I got to it.


I also think that since when we report the wind info to each other,

we
are spread out across a large area of sky and the winds could very
well be different, so maybe there isn't that large of a difference

due
to calculation methods after all. In the foothills/mountains there

can
be large local airmass difference due to orographic, local flow,
valley flow, etc..............


Anyone have any thoughts on this foggy morning rambling?


Brad


david,
which PNA?


An iPAQ 314, though opinion is tending towards a Mio M400 for better
visibility in sunlight. Not much of a problem in the UK these days.
The iPAQ internal gps is not very good in a glider, gives some odd
results at times, so I use a Holux BT gps with.
Dave