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Old November 7th 10, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_10_]
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Default See You Software and iMac

On Nov 7, 9:06*am, Dan wrote:
On Nov 7, 10:43*am, luv2glide wrote:

I would like to see the consensus for how to best run See You on an
iMac computer.


Can't speak to running under a virtual machine. *I run Bootcamp (comes
with the Mac), Windows XP (I had an unused licence laying about),
running StrePla - similar load to SeeYou on a white poly macbook. *No
problem, boot to bootcamp (hold down 'option' key on start, select
XP). *Only problem is that the MacBook cpu fans don't seem to adjust
to temp very well under bootcamp (if at all), and the machine runs
hot. I run smcFanControl in OS X, set the fan to a higher rpm, then
restart with option key. *Also handy for running usb-to-serial
converter for my Volkslogger. *In XP I have an app that checks CPU and
GPU temp. Running in 3D mode on replay really runs hot - so I max the
fan, and that keeps everything under control. *I have Parallels,
haven't bothered to install it.

Dan


I run SeeYou on top of CrossOver on my (Intel-based) iMac and
Parallels on Windows 7 (previously Vista) my MacBook. I also run
VMWare on my work MacBook but have not loaded SeeYou. Darryl and I
have done some comparisons of VMWare and Parallels. (Note: Darryl used
to work for VMWare so: 1) he knows what he's talking about, and 2) he
has some preference for VMWare, as he's stated). I've also run
BootCamp with Windows Vista with SeeYou.

All four solutions run fine so long as your Mac has an Intel processor
(I have a working PowerPC iMac in a closet so there are some still
left out there).

Comments on pros/cons:

Parallels: Runs everything fine and has the best 3D playback
performance, I think because it supports the graphics acceleration
used by SeeYou. My one complaint was that it was nearly impossible to
get USB-to-Serial adapters to run under Parallels so that I could
upload/download flights/tasks between SeeYou and my glider's flight
computers. This has been fixed in the latest version. I needed to buy
a copy of Parallels and a copy of Windows Home - this costs a total of
around $250 assuming you don't need a new SeeYou license.

VMWa Much like Parallels but slower/choppier 3D playback,
particularly if you are running multiple igc files at the same time.
My personal experience running VMWare is that it isn't as stable as
Parallels in the sense that it tends to go into ultra-slow mode as if
it is hung on some process. However, my Parallels and VMWare installs
are very different so my VMWare experience may be related to all the
junk corporate IT departments load onto computers.

CrossOver: Runs remarkably well. The latest version I've downloaded of
the Games version of CrossOver (apparently Games has better graphics
support), will not allow you to run 3D playback. There also are
various interface quirks. I have not tested all the features - for
instance uploading waypoint files. For simple playback and casual use
it seems fine and at $40 it's cheap.

BootCamp: This is the most "native" way to run Windows on a Mac. You
still need to buy a copy of Windows, but Bootcamp is free with MacOS.
The downside is that you have to reboot to switch between Windows and
Mac environments. I didn't want to replace all my Mac software with
Windows equivalents and got tired of rebooting all the time. I was
surprised how much I went back and forth between applications.
eventually I gave up and bought Parallels.

Unless you are sure you need 3D playback or other advanced features,
CrossOver is a great place to start and with the free trial it's low
risk. It also installs pretty easily.

9B