On Nov 18, 9:55*am, Tony wrote:
On Nov 18, 11:33*am, Grider Pirate wrote:



On Nov 18, 9:22*am, Tony wrote:

On Nov 18, 11:01*am, Carl6703 wrote:

I would like to retire our old Barographs and replace them with a
portable Flight Recorder that could be rented to candidates for SSA
badges. *Does anyone have any suggestions for a portable flight
recorder which would meet the badge requirements? Thanks.

Carl Baxter
Turf Soaring

if you want to eliminate the barographs completely i'd say go with the
LXNAV Nano. *Extremely small, entirely self contained in a unit that
is smaller than my cell phone, costs about the same as a 15 yr old
volkslogger or cambridge unit (~$600 at cumulus soaring and wings and
wheels and maybe others), easy operation. *I just picked one up and am
looking forward to using it this upcoming season. *I would think it
would be a great setup for rental.

just curious, why are you looking to retire the barographs? if you're
wanting your renters to be able to do closed course silver and gold
distance legs you can get some FlywithCE recorders (~$120 at Wings and
Wheels) to use in conjunction with the barographs. *They have been
approved as "Position Recorders" in the USA to replace cameras and
turnpoint photos. *Of course the Barograph alone is still all you need
to do free distance silver, gold and diamond distance and altitude
gains and silver duration.

Oops! *I hit 'send' instead of 'discard'. *I'm sure the OP is trying
to SIMPLIFY more than economize. *Yes, it's cheaper to use a postion
recorder and baro some badge flights, but it's also a PITA! I'm voting
with Daryll: get an LX Nano and be done.

i also suggested the Nano if a full IGC approved flight recorder is
what they want. *I'm not convinced that an electronic flight recorder
is really more simple than a barograph. *I did a bunch of state
records this season with a FlywithCE/barograph combination and it was
not that difficult to do the paperwork and application. *There is
plenty of paperwork and setup to be done with either type of device
before and after the flight. also plenty of failure modes for each.
any of us with any experience with any type of flight recording device
can attest to that.

Tony. Congratulations you passed the IGC flight recorder puzzle test
and have a badge to prove it. Many other people beat their head
against this and give up. And yes an IGC flight recorder still
involves a lot of stuff but any operation who standardizes on one
recording device for all badges flights (where any recording device is
needed) is going to have an easier time. Especially when they need to
understand all the rule and different device nuances and then need to
explain that to renters, explain it again, and again, and again,....

At $600 price and if used by any reasonable number of people per year
the per-use cost is very low -- I just do not see why any commercial
operation (where I presume people's time cost money) would want to
dick around with barographs when there is a portable IGC recorder
available for $600.

Darryl