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Old December 9th 10, 03:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jcarlyle
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Default TT21 operation with no ICAO address

You're making an assumption that the Trig will actually work with no
ICAO address. It's smart enough to know when configuration is needed,
and automatically starts that process without going operational. Since
it's a Mode S transponder, and is required to have a valid ICAO
address, if I were writing the code I wouldn't let it operate at all
with a blank ICAO address. I admit I haven't tested the situation, and
I have no intention of doing so.

Further, the avionics technician will check the presence of the proper
ICAO code during the VFR transponder check (it's a Mode S transponder
so it will be checked as such), so if you subsequently blank out the
ICAO code you're making a deliberate change to the logged, tested
condition. What the legal implications are I don't know, and I'm not
going to bother looking it up since I won't be blanking my ICAO
address.

I must say I'm really sorry I started the ball rolling on Feds
tracking tail numbers in the other thread. It was not meant to be
taken seriously as an "advantage" of Mode A/C over Mode S.

-John

Andy wrote:
I'm moving this to a new thread since it has nothing to do with the
requirement for altimeter TSO.

I asked what happened if a mode S transponder was installed without an
ICAO address. That was a sort of tongue in cheek reaction to the idea
that someone would not want their tail number broadcast to the Feds.

Darryl responded:
A Mode S transponder absolutely has to transmit the aircraft ICAO
address, a correctly configured ICAO address is required for the
transponder to actually work--bad things might happen if two aircraft
had the same default ICAO address were being interrogated at the same
time.


I like to continue that discussion.

Isn't it true that a mode S capable transponder cannot respond to a
mode S interrogation if it has no valid ICAO address?

Isn't it also true that a mode S transponder is also required to
respond to both mode A and mode C interrogations.

If both are true then doesn't it follow that a mode S transponder such
as the Trig TT21, if installed with no ICAO address, will not respond
to mode S interrogations but will respond to all mode A and mode C
interrogations.

If that is indeed the case then any new transponder purchaser who
wanted mode S capability in the future, but was paranoid about
broadcasting the tail number, could disable mode S responses by
leaving the ICAO address entry blank and use it just like a mode C
transponder.

Andy