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Old January 13th 11, 12:18 PM
Sparkorama Sparkorama is offline
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Originally Posted by jan View Post
Hi Gang
Like you all I have questioned what the best L/D of my 3 (now 1)
gliders - DB800B, Stemme S10-VT and SparrowHawk were in reality
suspecting that real L/Ds would be lower than the manufacturers
published values. I have used a PDA for many years switching it
between gliders. Software is GN11. After each flight I usually
download the log and review on a PC using SeeYou. Now GL11 calculates
an average L/D which can be viewed with the stats for each flight.
Also one can straight edge any glide from a flight and calculate that
effective glide ratio. Especially on a non thermic day one can get a
feel for a gliders' performance. So what I have I found after crudely
averaging in my brain 10 years of flying these 3 glider. Fairly
consistently the DG800B came out around 43 (manufacturer claimed 51.5.
How the hell could DG claim a half percentage point in 51???? That
represents a 1% accuracy! What nonsense!) - the Stemme around 42
(claim approaching 50) almost comparable with the DG and the
SparrowHawk around 29 (claim 35)
If you haven't done these seat of the pants measurements with your
own gliders I would suggest you all do them. It takes a little
practice and time to do the averaging over many flights. Interestingly
after a time and with practice you will find the measurements become
quite consistent which suggests that they might represent something
close to reality.
Dave
Sounds like you have some very nice gliders, Dave! I'm pretty new to soaring, but isn't the manufacturers L/D really a "best case" kind of number, meaning when the moon is in the seventh house of aquarius and all the elements are aligned in ultimate perfection? I've heard the L/D can be dropped by all manner of things like water droplets on the wing, bug splatter, and the stern look of a angry red-tailed hawk. Still, it's good to know the real numbers. As it is, it looks like you can just estimate that reality is a percentage (all three of yours are between 82 and 84%) of dreamland L/D numbers from manufacturers. Also, and I'm just wondering here, since I don't really know, could it have something to do with the way you fly? Or how much weight you're carrying? CG location? Wouldn't there be many factors?