On Feb 15, 4:46*pm, Cliff Hilty
wrote:
Ive made the crossing both ways 2 times a year for the last several years
and have had to go around it (via vegas and page) a few times when I
havent been able to get above 12k for a glide from the middle to either
side. And I am just one of a bunch of pilots that try each year. After all
it is the biggest hole in the world It was and is designed for noise
abatement so maybe we could/should get an Exemption Letter for gliders.

At 05:57 14 February 2011, Paul Cordell wrote:

We are there on a fairly regular basis. * Top of lift this day last
fall was 12.5K * We don't need a higher fence.

http://tinypic.com/r/98alci/7

Has anyone ever had to land in the canyon? Suddenly can't get back to
either side.... That would be a story I would love to hear (assuming
no one was hurt). I'm not talking about Evil Knievel either...

WD