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Old February 15th 04, 01:11 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"robert arndt" wrote in message
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No A-bomb was dropped on Germany


Didnt say it was

and the Reds did all the real
fighting on the ground... so you didn't win with any specific weapons
just NUMBERS OF MEN AND MATERIAL


Having destroyed Germany's synthetic oil plants by strategic bombing
and devastated its transport infrasructure.

- a deluge NO army in history could
win against. Of course the Germans DID fight non-stop for 6 years and


They werent bright enough to realise invading Russia AND declaring war
on the USA wasnt smart

introduced incredible weapons that influenced the way we fight war for
6 decades now. And they did it under TOTAL BOMBARDMENT. The US was
NEVER BOMBED and Britain only marginally compared to Germany.


Because Britain managed to use its scientific resources to build

1) An effective air defense system
2) An effective long range bomber force

How many
weapons would the US have produced under total bombardment? How come
we had every advantage and only claim the A-bomb, radar, and the P-51D
Mustang? The US should have produced everyhting the Germans did... but
did not.


No, it produced useful weapons instead of supersonic phallic
symbols with no military value.

To wit

Efficient air dropped homing torpedoes and long range maritime
patrol aircraft that decimated the u-boats

The proximity fuse that was responsible for improving the
efficiency of AA by almost an order of magnitude

Centimetric radar that allowed the allied nightfighters to destroy
German hightfighters over their own bases, find the U-boats
at night and allowed British airctaft from malta to find and
sink Rommel's transports at night

Efficient logistical systems using practical developments such
as standard containers to keep the armies supplied

Programmble computers that allowed the codebreakers to read
German cipher traffic so fast that by 1944 Eisenhower would
be reading Hitlers orders to Rommel at the same time Rommel
did,

etc etc

And if you think the Allies are so great why then did they send all
their experts into Germany hunting for secret weapons and every scrap
of technology they could find? Wright Field held thousands of TONs of
captured documents- the largest brain-drain and theft of entire nation
in history.


Because looting is what winners do,

And you dare to say no one benefitted from it? Bull****.


I didnt say anything of the sort, I merely pointed out that
it didnt benefit GERMANY

You're a joke Keith. My next door neighbor was in the OSS. He died in
1981 but before he did I asked him what exactly they found in Germany.
He told me something I'll never forget, "among the jets and rockets we
found things that we could not comprehend at the time". He actually
was there and saw the stuff. You didn't, so **** off.


My father was there Herr Arndt, he saw more than rockets
and jets, he saw Bergen Belsen. I grew up in a British city
in the 50's where the ruins of bombed out buildings were a
normal part of life.

My best friend at school was the son of a German jew who
came to Britain in 1936 and helped ICI build its synthetic
fuel plant, NONE of the rest of his family survived the camps.

The Nazi state was brutal corrupt and above all inefficient.
In every measure of arms production they lagged behind in
productivity. Despite their control of all the resources of Western
Europe, Britain alone outproduced Germany in fighter and
bomber aircraft and artillery and tanks. In 1943 and 1944 with
a vast Soviet army headed their way and an Anglo American
army chewing them up in Italy they decided to build not
masses of anti-tank weapons but a rocket with no military
value.

This criminal waste of irreplaceable resources and manpower
is what you are so proud of and yet it in fact only served helped
hasten the defeat of the Reich.

Keith