"robert arndt" wrote in message
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snip of Arndt being spanked by Keith

No A-bomb was dropped on Germany

Wasn't needed--the Nazi regime caved before we were even able to do the
Trinity test.

and the Reds did all the real
fighting on the ground...

Which would be a surprise to the Wehrmacht armies that got shoved out of
North Africa, bullied up the length of Italy, cut off and captured in
France, and then penetrated and exploited in both the Ruhr and farther
south, all by the western allies.

so you didn't win with any specific weapons
just NUMBERS OF MEN AND MATERIAL-

No, as Keith pointed out, a more intelligently *managed*, compared to the
German approach at the time, deluge of men and materiel.

a deluge NO army in history could
win against.

Especially one that, courtesy of its leadership, had blundered so badly and
in so many ways.

Of course the Germans DID fight non-stop for 6 years and
introduced incredible weapons that influenced the way we fight war for
6 decades now.

And what is that prize for just "being a good tryer" called in war...? Oh,
yeah, that's right--LOSER.

And they did it under TOTAL BOMBARDMENT.

Which they could not overcome, despite your continued references to super
weapons. Again, poor leadership decisions.

The US was
NEVER BOMBED and Britain only marginally compared to Germany.

The US was not stupid enough to start a war that opened it to such
treatment--Germany was, and paid for the error. Deal with it. The Brits just
proved superior to the German efforts directed at bombing it into
submission.

How many
weapons would the US have produced under total bombardment?

Dumb question--the German's could not bombard the US, and the closest the
Japanese came to a strategic bombing campaign against the US were a few
incendiary balloons which had no significant effect.

How come
we had every advantage and only claim the A-bomb, radar, and the P-51D
Mustang?

Who says that is all we can claim?

The US should have produced everyhting the Germans did... but
did not.

We (speaking of the western allies as a whole) produced the VT fuze; the
Germans did not. We produced reliable and robust four engined bombers; the
Germans did not. We produced enough trucks to motorize the entire ground
force--the Germans were still relying on horses for a significant part of
their ground transport when the war ended. The list can go on and on...

And if you think the Allies are so great why then did they send all
their experts into Germany hunting for secret weapons and every scrap
of technology they could find?

Because we were smart enough to try and take advantage of the research that
the Germans had largely wasted?

Wright Field held thousands of TONs of
captured documents- the largest brain-drain and theft of entire nation
in history.

It is not "theft" when you are the losing nation--think of it as
"intellectual reparations".

And you dare to say no one benefitted from it?

From the specific program you claim to have been the foundation of the
F-102? Nope, not really.

Bull****.

No, that has been you product, not Keith's.

You're a joke Keith.

No, he is not, especially compared to the deluded, and delusional, likes of
you.

My next door neighbor was in the OSS.

God, I bet you'd *really* have been impressed with him if he'd not had that
initial "O" in that title...

He died in
1981 but before he did I asked him what exactly they found in Germany.

Lots of rubble?

He told me something I'll never forget, "among the jets and rockets we
found things that we could not comprehend at the time". He actually
was there and saw the stuff.

Even if he did say that (and your rep is not such that we can depend upon
the accuracy of your claim), so what?

You didn't, so **** off.

So Keith has demonstrated a better grasp of the significance of the material
in question than your neighbor did; again, so what?

Brooks


Rob