Krztalizer wrote:


Really now...??? and do i hear George Bush or past Presidentos claiming
Area 51 open to public and news media?

But we aren't discussing Bush or now, we are talking about the ability of the
German propaganda machine to completely shut down a news event not only through
the period of the Third Reich's existance, but to maintain the deception for 6
decades after the fall of that government. Wow, they must be better at hiding
UFOs than they were at winning wars!

No ....cause they like german high command wana keep it private and
secret not to scare the rest of the world...

You seriously think that anything Bush does today will be a secret for the next
sixty years? Area 51 will be a theme park by then.

Gordon yet again please show fit on anything top secret since ww2 been
released from Black Projects etc with UFO technologies.. problem is you
cant... the US govt is too paranoid and scared if the world finds out


Its like saying Groom Lake is controlled by the CIA,
which it is... SS could of easily controlled any UFO programs in
germany.


There are many witnesses to everything else the SS did - and each of their
captured facilities eventually gave up their most disgusting, private
secrets,
what makes this particular secret so much more...uhhh...keepable?

Well how come all the secrets of ww2 and since are still locked away
with people not allowed to speak????

I've yet to see black suited figures come in and berate me for my views on WWII
aviation - maybe its the way you speak?

Really and flying mustangs and etc around killing other axis aircraft
rates? You are a lunatic. Try and keep on topic next time.

got to wonder why they are all
gagged and threatened if they speak.

Remember that Area 51 guy Bob Lazar? how come the CIA and co made him
shut up? if he was a loony they wouldn't care but they made him be quiet
or else... so explain it

I've now seen him interviewed about a dozen times, quoted on websites from here
to Tau Ceti, and STILL he doesn't understand those little post-it notes with
CIA letterhead commanding him to be quiet!

Even if he still is speaking and being ordered to be gagged by higher
ones, what does this tell you.. or you to limited in understanding to
get the big picture?


Americans need to think outside their box.. and credit germans for alot
of their current technology and machines...

We assimilate everyone's technology - just like Germany and just about
everyone else for that matter. I defy your suggestion that German
engineers
operated in some sort of intellectual vaccuum, producing new items for our
drones to copy without every hearing of adjacent technologies in Allied
countries. Both sides germinated the other with ideas and concepts.

How come every 1950s us jet was designed from captured german
technologies and scientists?

How come? Well, they weren't. I have the benefit of a proper view of the
evidence. In the basement where I work, I have decades of every part, every
design, that Ryan, Consolidated, Convair, and other companies worked on in the
postwar years. What is apparent is that German technologies were not always
better - just different; and we had the manpower and materials to go off in
directions that simply weren't open to German engineers.

But still german techno was way ahead you guys had to adopt their wing
tunnel tests to get the XP-86 thru the sound barrier in time.

Thats one example of many ways the germans had it in for you americans.


Even if UFos were not common knowledge in 1940s, they are nowdays.

Nowdays is 60 years past the last RLM-authorized design - technologies and
materials undreamed of by the von Brauns and the Kammlers of the 1940s have
existed for decades, molding and driving aviation in entirely new
directions.
Current "UFOs" have nothing at all to do with the Last Reich or its dreams.

Gordon your a non believer and thus dont belong here, your time to leave
the discussion has arrived, goodbye narrow minded american..

When you start up your own newsgroup, you can decide who posts. Until then,
get used to seeing me laugh at your lunacy.

And i shall return the mirror to you also, every time you post.


German was technology and vastly superior in everything ... even the
Kevlar PASGT helmet design was copied.

What German helmet was made of Kevlar, bright one?

Notice.. i said design ... hence the protection of ears and neck.

Please try and read the items in a correct manner next time.


Bet you'll find some american
claim next?

No, I try not to make 'claims', I simply take pot shots at claims that don't
hold air.

and your squirming still cause germans were ahead even 60yrs later.



Gordon
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