"JasiekS" wrote in message ...
Uzytkownik "robert arndt" napisal w wiadomosci
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Take a look at the Lockheed proposed L-133:
http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/His...133/L133_1.jpg
Now compare the L-133 to this thing. Some similarities up front and in
basic design. If you erase the L-133 cockpit, add two nose fins, sweep
the wings back into a Horten-Lippisch delta, split the tail in two and
cant them outwards and replace the jets with some other propulsion
system it would look like that UFO.

In other words: IF YOU DESIGN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AIRCRAFT it would
maybe resemble some Horten/Lippisch project.

Not at all, I'm only making a slight comparison to an aircraft design
that bears some resemblence to the thing. The L-133 comparison, BTW,
is from the same site as the photo. If that would be the case then I
only speculated on how the Lockheed L-133 COULD have been reconfigured
to match this thing.

Rob, if you think that doing these changes you mentioned above is piece
of cake and L-133 in a picture you pointed generally is a
'Horten-Lippisch delta', this is the best proof that you have nothing
common with any kind of aviation (not only military aviation).

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Rob

JasiekS
Warsaw, Poland

I NEVER claimed any proof of anything just that the '62 thing LOOKED
like an Horten design investigated postwar in the US. You are aware
that the Hortens were taken immediately from the British and sent to
the US to work on flying wing AND disc designs in late '45. Question
is WHY??? If the US was so superior and had both the B-29 and their
own flying wing genesis with Northrop, why consult the defeated
Germans on future aircraft?
The Hortens late designs were flying wings but more inspired by
Lippisch. Their XIIIB is a prime example, being more akin to the
DM-1/LP P.13A than all their other Nurflugels combined. In the US
their work resulted in deltas, pure flying wings, discs, and others.
If you had read about the Roswell case and Kenneth Arnold sighting you
would know that neither of those claimed alien craft were discs.
Arnold drew for the USAF a picture of a crescent-shaped flying wing
while the Roswell craft was a delta with an almost conventional
fuselage. Both match Horten designs. The Arnold crescents match the
HO-IX and the Roswell craft the HO-X.
This not proof of anything but many investigators now armed with
recently declassified documentation suspect a US-Horten link in
debunking the ET UFO myth(s). That subject is still being debated. I
don't necessarily support that belief but I would like to see all the
US files and photos on WHAT the Hortens research for the US Govt.
The mentioned "Blackfang"? design approximates the '62 thing. It
probably has nothing to do with the Lockheed L-133, but if it did and
the Hortens redesigned that aircraft the result would be about the
same.
I just need a design link to the Blackfang- still hunting for it on
Google. That design is extremely rare and I don't see anyone else in
the NG that has a clue.
In the entire time I've been at RAM (6 years)I've posted a lot of
photos and designs of extremely rare aircraft. I'm willing to bet that
many of the regulars here don't like that because it ruins their
beliefs that the US invented everything in aviation. It must really
bug them when the US Govt. has to steal, pressure, borrow, or buy
foreign tech to maintain the cutting edge (which it doesn't possess in
all areas).

Rob