On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:03:07 +1100, John Cook
wrote:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:55:56 -0500, "Paul F Austin"
wrote:

Apparentley the time taken from the bounce until the Typhoons had
achieved a clear shot on the F15E's rear l was 9 seconds.

Not Too Shabby!!!


Let's take an objective look at another absurd claim. The setup was
that the Mud Hens attacked from 8 o'clock. That would be 135 degrees
off the nose of the Typhoons. And, the "clear shot on the F-15Es rear
would necessitate either a turn into the attack, forcing an
over-shoot, followed by a reversal and turn back to the egress by the
Eagles. Minimum heading change required---90 degrees of turn to
negate, then back 135 degrees to the Eagle's course, assuming the
Eagle doesn't turn at all!

So, with 225 degrees of turn to accomplish and your statement of 9
seconds, 25 degrees/second sustained. If the Eagles turned to respond
to the defensive first move of the Typhoons, then the angles to be
handled increase and the turn rate must as well. Since a 9G turn at
corner velocity of modern fighters generates around 14-16 degrees per
second, one must assume that these incredible Typhoons either have
increased G available to something around 16G or reduced corner
velocity to around 150 kts.--one is impossible, the other absurd.

And, throughout, it continues the idea of the Mud Hens attacking in
welded wing, which simply isn't the practice.

Dare I say, once again--bovine excrement!



Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8