On Jan 18, 11:26*am, "kirk.stant" wrote:
On Jan 18, 9:33*am, Bill D wrote:









On Jan 17, 7:55*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 1/17/2012 6:48 PM, T wrote:

You know that in the US the manual is not required to be on board if
the limitations are properly marked via placards and decals.

XF

That's news to me! Last I read, if it was listed in the TCDS or if the
manual (POH) said it had to be in the glider, then it needs to be in
the glider regardless of what is placarded. And the POH specifies the
minimum placards.

I've been flying gliders in the US since 1976, and I don't recall having
the manual on board ever being a safety or enforcement issue. Does
anyone know of an incident involving having a manual on board?

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Yes. *The question came up in a checkride with an FAA inspector.
AFAIK, all JAR-22 certificated gliders require the AFM (POH) to be on
board. *An Approved Flight Manual (AFM) is actually part of the
glider's certification documentation and the glider must be operated
in strict compliance with it. (FAR 91.309)

A simple solution is to vacuum seal the original manual in clear
plastic after making a copy - then secure it safely in the glider.
The copy can be used for reference and need not be on-board.- Hide quoted text -

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What is the definition of an AFM? *Wouldn't a copy of the AFM that
came with your glider (has glider s/n on it, for example), be the same
as the original AFM? *And how would a reduced size (but obviously
still readable) copy not also be an AFM?

Curious minds want to know!

Kirk
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AFM = Approved Flight Manual. The reason they want the original AFM
on board is so it can (and will) be regularly updated with new pages
from the manufacturer and thus will be the only "official" AFM. A
copy would only be current at the time the copy was made. AFAIK, a
copy can be used for "educational" purposes.