Soaring Community Consumer Warning
Chip, you must suffer from "selective reading disorder." Eric's comments were fact. The statement on Tim's webpage that your quoting: "These ads are intended for private sellers only, not for other aircraft dealers, resellers or commercial vendors!"… does NOT state that I, the seller AND MY AD, is restricted only to his web site and NOT allowed by me, the seller, to be placed on another website.
I'm not a "dealer", "reseller", or "commercial vendor" in this case. You need to take a course in contractual law and understand how the wording should be. In plain language it should have been, as Tim LATER stated 3 months after I placed MY ad on Soaring Cafe, "You volunteered your ad and information to be placed on the W&W Want-ads where it is well known that nearly anyone looking to buy of sell a glider, aircraft, trailer or parts goes to as the one most up-to-date source. These website like others before them are simply trying to create a commercial website and use want-ads like yours to draw viewers and advertisers. Though they promote this as a service by stealing ads and adding want-ads to their site but simply taking away the one most useful single source for up-to-date listing for all buyers and sellers alike. W&W ads are free as always and still in continuous use since the days before the internet became a household media If someone wants to list with other websites and freely submits an ad to them that is up to them to decide where they think they will get the most benefit and exposure and I will never send spam or copy ads to list on Wings & Wheels want-ads but respectfully decline to offer them the free space to list on the Wings & Wheels want-ads a duplicate listing."
If this is his policy, he should have stated it up front on his classifieds page. But it wasn't AND I was not aware of the past issues of ad stealing. I placed my ad on Soaring Cafe because my Jonker dealer suggested it. I was unaware that Soaring Cafe offered classifieds, so I place MY AD. It was not stolen or copied over by them. A month later, Tim sends the above message. That's a backdoor policy--and it does hurt me. I believe that my chance to sell my glider is best served by getting as much exposure as possible. Making that tough on me by way of an incident that he apparently hasn't settled with Soaring Cafe is penalizing me. If his policy had been stated CLEARLY UP FRONT, I would have been given the choice. And knowing that his web classifieds are the prominent place to advertise, I would have complied. But bullying me into making the choice later on is not good business, so I'm exercising my right to let the community know what happened to me. If there is an aftermath to this, then Tim needs to reword his online policy right now.
I understand the affection for his business. He's helped me out in the past as well and I was a loyal customer. But I also believe in having a choice. Now he's not helping me out with a major and difficult thing to do: I just want to sell my glider in the midst of a difficult economy.
So Chip--that's my position. If you are myopic in not understanding, that's just you. But don't accuse me of being unfair as to what transpired. Me, I'm moving on.
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