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Old July 30th 13, 04:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default When are thermals not circular and do thermal helpers assume that they are?

I'll jump in here before Max does. XCSoar is open source. You can download
all of the source code and study the algorithms yourself.

I also have to ask: Do you really *need* a thermal assistant? I can fly
with the pitot tube plugged (ask me how I know), can you? Same with plugged
statics.


"6PK" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:51:44 AM UTC-7, waremark wrote:
You guys who find the WP thermal assistant so much better than others -
are you running them on the same hardware with the same inputs? I hope you
are not basing any comments on an Oudie using its internal GPS because it
is known that the info from the internal GPS is not good enough for a
thermal assistant.


You are absolutely correct. WP Pro is only available and only work with a
compatible flight computer( true airspeed and vario info added I think) and
not with a stand alone gps source.
SYM, XCSoar will offer their version of the thermal assist with a stand
alone gps where they should not; AS IT DOES NOT WORK without a flight
computer!
But to be honest when it comes to their type of thermal assist SYM and
XCSoar don't work very well with a flight computer either.
I'm sure this is all about the algorithms which they won't openly share (as
in guarded secrets).
Like Tim I have used all three (and still have them installed on my
Avier/Vertica2)
None measure up to WPPro when it comes to this feature. Agree; they have a
lot of new and nice features I wish WP would take notes of.
(One would argue; why we need the thermal assits? Answer; why do we need
flight computers, compensated varios, audio varios, or a variometer for that
matter??.)
6PK