Hi Paul,

While the device will not be approved as an IGC Flight Recorder, it is up to the individual NACs (the SSA for the US) to determine whether to approve them as GPS Position Recorders, which allows the device to be used for badges up to Gold. These devices do not need to live up to the full specifications for an FR, though they do need to provide some level of security that makes it impossible (or at least exceedingly painful) to modify a log file without it being obvious to the OO.

The SSA has already approved the FlyWithCE recorders as GPS Position Recorders. Hopefully the newer version of the Oudie will address the concerns that prevented the earlier versions from being similarly approved.

P3

On Friday, August 16, 2013 7:39:23 AM UTC-4, Paul Remde wrote:
Hi,



Unfortunately, It is extremely unlikely that the IGC will approve the Oudie

3 for badges and records. They don't trust PDA/PNA devices because they

think someone could write software to intercept and change the GPS data

before it is recorded. I don't agree with them on this, but that is I

understand their position.



The Oudie 3 can either run the sailplane version of SeeYou Mobile or the

Paraglider / Hang Glider version of SeeYou Mobile. I show a few screen

shots of both on my Oudie web page.

http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm



I don't think Oudie or Oudie 2 units can be upgraded to Oudie 3 units.

There are many changes to the circuit boards to accommodate the pressure

sensor and different GPS. However, I don't think most glider pilots would

want to upgrade. The Oudie 3 is great for pilots that want to use it in

club or rental gliders, but customers using the Oudie 2 in their own glider

with an external GPS or flight computer connected have no reason to switch.

The vario in the Oudie 3 is a cool idea, but since it is not a total energy

compensated variometer, it is not nearly as useful as the varios you already

have in the glider. It will show lift every time you slow down and sink

every time you speed-up.



I am still added accessories to my Naviter web page. I'm also going to add

an Oudie comparison table. I hope to have everything done later today.



Best Regards,



Paul Remde

Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

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On Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:59:15 AM UTC-6, wrote:

, 2013 10:49:11 AM UTC-4, Richard wrote:



The Oudie 3 is available.

Richard and Paul,

Thanks for posting. A few questions; Is the GPS of a high enough level where

it could be approved for certain claims? Second, the screen shots look a

little different than SYM version 3.5, is that because that is a

hang/para-gliding version or is it running a new version of SYM? Lastly,

will it be possible to upgrade some of the new features (Like the 12.5HR

battery) to an Oudie 2.

Thanks

PS Richard, Enjoyed talking to you and your Oudie presentation at Nephi.