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Old August 23rd 13, 12:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
son_of_flubber
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Default Uncle Fuzzies take on Self Launchers

On Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:10:46 PM UTC-4, Andrew wrote:
At 03:37 21 August 2013, Eric Greenwell wrote:

Uncle Fuzzy wrote, On 8/20/2013 7:35 PM:


My take on self-launchers launchers




� is really pretty simple. A self launcher means you can


launch

whether there�s a tow plane or not. Period. For me, that


would mean

I could launch from Jean, land somewhere, make camp (I love


�ramp

camping�), and launch the next day and fly back (conditions,


skills,

etc. permitting.) Essentially equivalent to having a tug


available

for the next day at any field. If tugs were always available, I


wouldn�t have any use for a self launcher.




You understand one half of the attraction of a self-launcher, but


like

many people, miss the other half: you can take risks with the


lift, and

if you guess wrong and the lift isn't there, you can start the


motor,

get to the next lift, and continue the flight. The ability to explore


without the consequences of a landout and a potentially long


retrieve

are just as valuable as avoiding the launch line or flying from an


airport that doesn't have a towplane.




I'm sorry you will have money left over at the end of your "final


glide", a fate I am trying to avoid. It's even harder to judge that


"glide" than one in a glider, and you don't get to practice it,


either.



Possibly, you could use some of the money to start a partnership


in a

DG1000 or other excellent two seater, like the DG1000 that


operates at

Ephrata, WA. You will have partners to fly with, they will be


introduced

to cross-country flying, and will pass that on as they become


proficient. It's well equipped, kept assembled and covered so it's


ready

to in moments, and seems to be fulfilling the mission envisioned


by the

original owner.




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Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us"


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Talking about motor gliders with extending masts and gas

engines: all the advantages seem (at least partially) offset by

corresponding disadvantages, either physical or psychological. For

example, the major convenience of not needing a towplane is

partially offset by the usually-greater difficulty and risk of self

launching. When it comes to cross-country flying, a large fraction

(99%?) of field landings are eliminated with a motor glider, but the

"worry element" always remains (motors don't always start, and a

field landing in a motor glider will be more difficult and risky). Overall,

my experience is that I prefer my motor glider, however

the advantages are not as great as I had imagined.


I'm waiting for an electric sustainer that I can afford.