On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:13:39 PM UTC-6, Roy Clark, "B6" wrote:
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 12:49:52 PM UTC-8, Tony wrote:

On Saturday, March 8, 2014 2:23:27 PM UTC-6, Allan Tribe wrote:





In general you're not going to be here for a historically good soaring time, but occasionally we get a good day that time of the year. You'll have a chance to fly classic american trainers (2-33 and 2-22) over terrain that has been statistically proven to be flatter than a pancake.



Tony,



As a Native Child of the South Wind (born in Topeka; grew up in Big "TAH"),

I must remind you that Florida, not Kansas, is the flattest state.



["The land rises more than 3,000 ft (914 m) from the eastern alluvial prairies of Kansas to its western semiarid high plains, which stretch toward the foothills of the Rocky Mts. The rise is so gradual, however, that it is imperceptible, although the terrains of the east and the west are markedly different. The state is drained by the Kansas and Arkansas rivers, both of which generally run from west to east."

http://www.infoplease.com/encycloped...ixzz2vQlMVMIr]



Out X-C and Track Coach in the late '50s - early '60s at Wichita East thought it was almost "Runner's Heaven - just keeps on-going uphill." Bob Timmons coached Jim Ryun at WHS East and KU. Coach always was frustrated he couldn't quite lay out a completely uphill 2 mile course on Mt. Oread. [According to the United States Geological Survey, Mount Oread is located approximately 1,037 feet (316 m) above sea level. By way of comparison, downtown Lawrence is about 846 feet (258 m) above sea level. Mount Oread is perhaps best known for being the staging area of William Quantrill's raid into Lawrence on August 21, 1863, during the American Civil War.

-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Oread]



I hope Allen will meet up with you and enjoy some mid-western hospitality..



Sad, though, his boy works at KSU, aka KCC (Kansas Cow College).



I'm a Jayhawk - KU MEd '69

Never said it was the flattest, just statistically flatter than a pancake:

http://www.improbable.com/airchives/...i3/kansas.html

Some do opine that a marble placed on I-70 at the Colorado border would roll to Kansas City.

On that note, during the annual Shrove Tuesday (Fat Tuesday for some of you, or International Pancake Day if you follow IHOP's marketing machine) pancake race between Liberal, KS and Olney, England, Olney won again this year for the third year in a row.