Brett wrote:
"Marc Reeve" wrote:
Brett wrote:
"George Z. Bush" wrote:

Where do you get the idea that I believe "none of our guys were
shooting at any of their guys" when my comment was "North Vietnam
bombed into accepting"

and vice versa. At any rate, agreement was reached in January '73
and by the end of March, all US combat troops were out of there.
Personally, withdrawal is withdrawal, whether as a result of enemy
fire or negotiations.....it still signifies defeat.

Based upon that comment the US must have lost the War of 1812 -
negotiations between the parties concerned did afterall end that War.

There's definitely a case for arguing that we did lose the War of 1812.

Perhaps, but the argument is stronger for the position that nobody won the
War, and the only real losers were the Indian tribes who had allied
themselves with the British.

True enough. The natives had a knack for picking the wrong side - siding
with the French during the French and Indian War, and then with the
Brits during the Revolution and the War of 1812.
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Marc Reeve
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