Bruce Hoult wrote on 2/1/2017 8:42 PM:
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 5:12:27 AM UTC+3, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Chris Davison wrote on 2/1/2017 10:14 AM:
A questions that I should know the answer to but don't...in a
thermal, all things being equal, will a 15m glider and an 18m glider
with the same wing loading climb at the same rate?

I'm told thermal climb rate is related to "span loading" (weight/span),
while high speed performance is related to wing loading (weight/wing
area). In your example, the 18m glider will climb better.

Told by who, I wonder? :-)

Aerodynamics people (Dan Somers and Greg Cole, I recall), and people
intent on handicapping a range of gliders.


Span is important to minimize induced drag, but that's a waste of time unless you have enough wing area to give an acceptable coefficient of lift or AoA at desired circling speeds and radii.

The OP did specify "same wing loading", so we know they both have
"enough" area, even if the area isn't optimum for other reasons.

There is probably an intermediate cruising speed range where the dominant factor is wing loading / wing area / wetted area / span*chord. At a guess that might be from midway between min sink and best L/D speeds out to maybe 1.4 or 1.5 times best L/D speed.

At higher speed I'd have thought the dominant factor would be minimizing span*wing thickness, i.e. frontal area. That's what kills the 1960s 40:1 ships at high speed -- or newer short span ones such as the PW5.

The 18 m ship could choose to fly at a higher wing loading while
retaining a climb equal to the shorter span glider, then reap the
benefits of the higher wing loading the cruise.

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