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Old September 1st 17, 04:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dunflyin
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Default Anyone Ground-Launched a Russia Glider?

Stephen,

I was interested by your query. I looked forward to reading authorative,
first hand experience of ground launching the Russia glider but most of the
replies give general feedback about ground launching gliders using aerotow
nose hooks. I offer comments based upon my limited experience.

The Midland Gliding Club had a Kenilworth Me7 for a few years which was
routinely winch launched. This was the name under which the Russia was
sold in the UK. It only had a compromise hook - with back release. Is
this what is called a chin hook in the USA? (A compromise hook is fitted a
little forward of the position for a CofG hook.)

I do not know what type of hook is fitted to the Russia gliders sold in the
USA. If, unlike the Me7, the Russia AC-4B only has an aerotow nose hook I
cannot offer any advice.

If the Russia has a compromise hook you may wish to contact the MGC CFI via
the web site for authoritative guidance -
http://www.midlandgliding.club/your-committee/.

I had a few flights in the Me7. From memory the flight manual gave a
rather narrow winch launch speed range of 56kts to 60kts. I found gentle
launches at 56kts or a little less to be uneventful with only a slight
tendency to porpoise. The launch height would be typically 200ft less than
was achieved in a Schleicher ASK23 (with CofG hook). With faster launches
I always ended up with porpoising towards the top of the launch which could
become uncomfortable at 60kts. Perhaps with training or more experience I
could have controlled the porpoising better without unduely compromising
the launch height. My weight with parachute was 165lbs and the winch
launching characteristics could be different for heavier or lighter pilots.


The controls were very light, but nicely co-ordinated. There was no
tendency to over-rotate during the initial part of the launch, but I
imagine that a pilot used to the controls of a heavy glider might “over
control” the Me7.

Because of its very light weight, the effect on the Me7 of excessive power
or snatching of the cable would be greater than on heavier gliders. I
would have been wary if the launch crew were inexperienced or not fully
briefed on the launch speed required for the Me7.

I remember reading that a modification was available for the Russia / Me7
to add a CofG hook, but I would expect modified gliders to be rare.

If you particularly want a Russia glider (with a compromise hook), it can
be successfully ground launched. However the name given to the type of
hook gives a clue to its launch charcteristics - it is not optimised for
ground launching or for aerotowing.

At 03:04 25 August 2017, wrote:
Hello,

I fly out of Hobbs, NM where we don't have a tow plane. We launch
strictly=
by auto-tow. I am interested in a Russia AC-4B but am not comfortable
gro=
und launching from a nose hook. We currently fly Schweizer 1-26's and a
2-=
33, which has the hook located between the nose and the CG. When you
climb=
high enough you can get a porpoising effect due to the tail stalling &
uns=
talling. I would imagine this only gets worse with a hook in the nose,
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I can't find anyone who has done it. The manual indicates that it can

be
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done, but I wonder how much height you have to give up due to the hook
loca=
tion. I am also a little concerned about the angle being too sharp on

the
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nose hook and possibly keeping it from releasing.

Has anyone flown (or seen) a Russia glider ground launched by the nose
hook=
?

Thanks in advance,


Stephen