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(Issac Goldberg) wrote in message . com...
(Mike Weeks) wrote:
Idiot;

Weeks does what he does best, he resorts to childish
name calling.

What Mike does best is finding the facts and presenting
his conclusions based on the facts; e.g. you are an idiot.

He acknowledges that Congress has never conducted an
investigation devoted solely to the Liberty affair.

What makes "Congress" more qualified to run an investigation than
the CIA? Can Congress get more data? Does Congress have deeper
understanding of Israel? Does Congress have better exprerts in
navies-at-war issues than the US NAvy?

1st, Congress has the legal authority to place witnesses under oath.
2nd, as an equal branch of government to the executive, can demand
full access to all information known by the GOUS. Thirdly, and most
important, the US Congress owns Israel from the perspective that it
authorizes the billions of $$ each year that the US gives to Israel to
conduct its brutal occupation of the palestinian territories. The
Congress could, if it wanted, force Israel to release what it knows.

To this day, Israel refuses to release crucial facts of the attack on
the American ship. A simple item like the flight path of the initial
Kursa attack jets as they approached the Liberty is unknown. It is
important to know because Micha Limor, a blabbermouth crewman of the
attacking MTBs, wrote an article contemporaneous to the attack that
reports the jets flew over the MTBs then went on to attack the
Liberty. The testimony of the captain of the Liberty, CDR McGonagle
indicates strongly to that flight path. ( Hillel, Mike Weeks, who you
think highly of, was very disengenous in a past online discussion of
this issue. He posted that the Liberty's radar readings of the
approaching jets as they passed overhead of the MTBs at 32,000 yds
distance was not possible because the Liberty radar was for surface
contacts only. He was immediately corrected by a poster knowledgeable
on the subject who informed the readership that the verticle beam of
the Liberty's radar would have reached the height of those jets at the
32000 yd distance as they passed over the approaching MTBs. )

This is just an example of the little pieces of information that
Israel will not release to the American public to explain its attack.
Israel says the first attack jets circled the Liberty twice before
going in for the kill. The IAF controller transcripts indicate that
only a few minutes elapsed between the time that the Kursa lead pilot
is talking to the MTB crew and correcting their course to the Liberty
and the time the Israeli jets complete their first attack. The immed
pre attack timeline drawn from the NCOI, which matches up with what
Micha Limor reported in his article, does not come close to matching
the one drawn from the IAF controller transcripts. Add to this the
assertion that the Israelis are lieing about the attack jets first
circling the Liberty and there are credible grounds to suspect that
the IAF controller tapes and transcripts have been doctored, that is
conversations have been removed from those tapes.

This is one item amoung many where Israel's explanations do not answer
legitimate questions about the attack. What did the Israeli coastal
radar net see when its operators looked at the Liberty? Israel's
shills like Jay Cristol parrot the Israeli explanation that the MTBs
measured the Liberty's speed at 30 knots, "warship" speed. ( Micha
Limor, our man on the MTB, writes that the measured speed of the
Liberty was much less! ) But at jet attack time, the IAF controllers
are using the very capable coastal radar net to direct the Kursa jets
from whereever they were coming from to the Liberty. The Israeli
coastal radar could see the Liberty fine. Why was it not used to find
the ship that was supposedly shelling El Arish instead of the crappy
radar onboard the MTBs?

The public has been told how the Israeli Naval command forgot it knew
of the American spy ship Liberty the morning of 8 June, hours before
it ordered the attack. But what about what the Israeli air force
command knew? IDF COS Rabin and IAF CDR Hod were both in on the
attack, communicating with the Kursa flight leader as he approached
the Liberty. Did they know the Liberty had been identified as an
American spy ship hours before also? If so, why did those highest
ranking Israeli commanders not question their subordinates as the
attack was developing as to the obvious question of was the ship that
was going to be attacked the American ship? ( And if not, why not?
The presence of an American spy ship possibly means the Russians are
in the area. Are the Russians organizing a counterattack in the
Sinai? That would be the most important news of the day for
Rabin/Hod/Dayan to be aware of. ) And if Rabin and Hod were talking to
Kursa flight leader Spector immed pre attack ( as per well connected
SDW historian Michael Oren ), why are their conversations not present
on the IAF controller transcripts?

So yes, Hillel, a congressional investigation is long overdue and
worthwhile to the American public. The fact that American Jews appear
to be the only entity opposed to such an investigation is very
upsetting. Americans have been very loyal and friendly to Israel.
Israel should return that goodwill in kind.

-Steve