"Jim" wrote in message ...
A CFI can give instrument "training" and log it as instruction given. We do
it for every student and also for BFRs. A CFI without an instrument rating
on his instructors certificate can log instruction given in IMC, but he can
not log or give any of the 15 hours of instrument instruction required by
instrument students, and can not endorse any student for an instrument
knowledge or practical test.

Again, all very nice but it doesn't answer the original question.