No doubt this post will be deleted as politically incorrect....

First, let me thank those that stopped posting to that other non-soaring thread. Second, here are two other Google group forums (hang-gliding and aerobatics) that serve as examples of how ours might end up self-destructing:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...n.hang-gliding

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...ion.aerobatics