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Old December 5th 03, 06:27 PM
Gary L. Drescher
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"Robert Moore" wrote in message
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Fair enough, but it's still loggable as PIC time, no?
Just can't count towards the recency or currency.


No simulator time counts as PIC. Doesn't matter if is a real
"airplane simulator", an "airplane flight training device", or
a "personal computer aviation training device", it's still not
"pilot experience", just "training time".


The FAA doesn't define "pilot experience", but it does define "pilot time",
"flight time", and "PIC time". Pilot time does include dual sim time
(though flight time and PIC time do not):

61.1b12: Pilot time means that time in which a person -- (i) Serves as a
required pilot flight crewmember; (ii) Receives training from an authorized
instructor in an aircraft, flight simulator, or flight training device; or
(iii) Gives training as an authorized instructor in an aircraft, flight
simulator, or flight training device.

So whether you log dual sim time as part of total time depends on whether
it's total pilot time (included) or total flight time (not included). For
example, form 8710 (application for certificate or rating) asks for pilot
time.

--Gary