On Jul 1, 12:30*pm, Ross wrote:
Vaughn

I am sorry, but I do not see this as spam. I see a very dedicated
aviator inviting fellow aviators to join him for fun and relaxation
prior to going on to Oshkosh.
Go for it, Jay and keep it up. Maybe someday we can meet up.

Hey, all. Before I left the industry to be a full-time pilot and
flight instructor, I was a network and usenet abuse policy
administrator for many years. I have been aware of Jay's business and
activity for many years. For whatever that's worth, it was up to me to
decide what to do with complaints about posts such as Jay's. Here's
how my sysadmin team would evaluate this:

"Spam" is unsolicited BULK material send to multiple off-topic forums
or e-mail addresses. The term does not apply here unless he's spamming
to, say, alt.binaries.kittens or ca.politics also.

"UCE" is Unsolicited Commercial E-mail but can also be applied to
other forums such as usenet. The Rolex spam is UCE, and if Sporty's
advertised here it would be as well because they're not active in the
forum otherwise.

Jay is an active participant of the forum announcing topical activity
that happens to have a commercial element. He's not flooding the
newsgroup with it, ie, posting excessively. He responds to posts and
complaints about it personally. He's using the forum as a bulletin
board to announce his activity to his usenet acquaintances and the
general community. He's been around here for a long time and is one of
the most regular users. As such, he flies right through any reasonable
abuse policy criteria.

Folks, the respectful use of newsgroups as a marketplace and bulletin
board is far more appropriate and vital to the community than
flamewars and bickering. As a reader here for over a decade, I'm much
more interested in learning about a potential gathering of like-minded
subscribers for an airshow than I am in people flaming each other over
the validity of the post.

Flaming and bickering about the validity of Jay's posts is off-topic.
It seems to happen every time he mentions Alexis Park Inn based on the
misconception of what constitutes usenet "spam." I would prefer a
truce, because I think there are countless more important things to
get fired up about.

Have a great time at Oshkosh, everybody. Fly safe!

Respectfully,
Chris Gattman
Commercial pilot, CFI - Troutdale, Oregon