On Jul 16, 11:30*am, Chris Donovan wrote:
On Jul 15, 9:57*pm, "John Godfrey (QT)"
wrote:





On Jul 15, 9:37*pm, Eric Greenwell wrote:

On 7/15/2011 1:16 PM, T8 wrote:

On Jul 14, 10:20 pm, *wrote:
The MSL/AGL issue has come before the Caesar Creek Soaring Club Board
once again. Not only has the Club been thrown into turmoil again, this
time it has specifically affected our instructors and how to most
effectively teach our students. I am curious if there are other Clubs
or organizations that teach using AGL.
Rolf Hegele
Member of the Board

Is there even *one* good argument for setting the altimeter to zero on
the runway?

You live anywhere in Florida?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

I still think there is hope... Consider (from Wikapedia)

Railway time was the name given to the standardised time arrangement
first applied by the Great Western Railway in England in November
1840. This was the first recorded occasion when a number of different
local times were synchronised and a single standard time applied.
Railway time was progressively taken up by all of the other railway
companies in Great Britain over the following two to three years. The
times schedules by which trains were organised and the times train
stations clocks displayed was brought in line with the local time for
London or "London Time". This was also the time set at Greenwich by
the Royal Observatory, Greenwich which was already widely known as
Greenwich Mean Time or (GMT).

The development of railway networks in India around 1860,[1] and North
America in the 1850s,[2] as well as other countries in Europe, also
prompted the introduction of standard time systems influenced by the
specific, geographical, industrial development and political
governance appertaining.

The key purpose behind introducing railway time was twofold. Firstly,
to overcome the confusion caused by having non-uniform local times in
each town and station stop along the expanding railway network and
secondly, to reduce the incidence of accidents and near misses which
were increasingly occurring as the number of train journeys increased.

The railway companies sometimes faced concerted resistance from groups
of local people in a number of places where trains stopped, who
refused to agree to adjust their public clocks to bring them into line
with London Time. As a consequence two different times would be
displayed in the town and in use with the station clocks and published
in train timetables differing by several minutes from that on other
clocks. Despite this early reluctance, railway time rapidly became
adopted as the default time across the whole of Great Britain although
it still took until 1880 for the government to legislate on the
establishment of a single Standard Time and a single time zone for the
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Generally by the time a pilot gets about a hundred hours or so this
discussion resolves itself! * Which is about the amount of time it
takes when most Sailship pilots begin to wander from home field
anyways....did you like the "sailship pilots" word I just thought
up? * *Teach what the student can absorb at the time, and newbies need
to absolutly know where they are in reference to the ground and not
making mental calculations at every turn in the pattern! Additionally
teach common sense first, keep your ****ing head on a swivil and out
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Intelligent. And... During the first instruction flight, and all
other instruction flights for that matter, the student doesn't NEED to
know anything, that is what the instructor is for. If the student
cannot handle a particular task, say MSL altimeter calculations for
example, then don't teach it at all until they can. Then, when they
have learned ALL of the required skills they are ready for solo.