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Old January 17th 09, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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John wrote in
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On Jan 15, 3:12 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Kingfish writes:
Holy smokes! CNN is reporting an airliner went down in the Hudson
after departing LaGuardia. I heard something about birdstrikes, but
can't imagine a double engine failure due to that(?) They sure
picked a cold day to go swimming... Hope everybody is ok...

Bird strikes are a leading cause of engine failure. Jet engines
don't

often
fail all on their own.


Well, according to
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...y_channel.jsp?

channel=busav&
id=news/eng08036.xml

By the way, the study's authors noted that compressor stalls/surges
account for two-thirds of the engine malfunctions in today's
turbofans. This is a change from earlier generation turbine designs in
which uncontained failures were the principal malfunction. Since
stall/ surge is the primary engine malfunction, one would assume that
it would be a regular item during initial, recurrent or simulator
training. And yet, I cannot recall ever reviewing the matter or being
exposed to a compressor stall/surge during a simulator session.


I have, but only a couple of times and just to run through the
drill.Most checklists just have you retarding the throttle and/or
shutting down anyhow.
Most times nowadays with high bypass fans it trashes the engine straight
away, unlike the old JT8s and such which would fart away happily enough
until you pulled the thrust lever back.


Bertie


Sounds like you, retarded and farting away.