On Jun 4, 9:38*pm, Michael Ash wrote:
In rec.aviation.student Gezellig wrote:





Michael Ash pretended :
In rec.aviation.student Gezellig wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 01:20:04 -0500, Michael Ash wrote:

Joking aside, if your straps were loose enough that you could slump
forward, that *would* affect your CG which would in turn affect your
trimmed airspeed.

There's another issue that I just thought of that I don't think anyone has
mentioned yet, though. Won't you get into a graveyard (bad terminology for
this scenario, as you're already dead) spiral? After all, if you could
stay straight and level just by taking your hands off the controls you
wouldn't need to fear IMC with no gyroscopic instruments. So it seems that
if you start high enough, the correct answer to this question would be
whatever the terminal velocity of your fuselage is without its wings. Am I
off base here?

You fly until gassless, stall, nose down, then descend too rapidly,
striking the ground with the wings ripped off. Works for me.

You don't stall, because when the engine quits the airplane will start to
descend, maintaining approximately the original airspeed.

At what point do you expect to lose the wings via "the correct answer
to this question would be whatever the terminal velocity of your
fuselage is without its wings."?

If you enter a spiral dive as I surmised, the wings fall off either when
you exceed Vne or when you exceed the maximum loading the wings can
support, whichever comes first. However it would seem that whether this
happens or not will depend on the airplane in question.


If the plane is in a steady dive at 2x VNE what is the wing loading?
VNE may be set by srface instability (flutter) or perhaps engine
overspeed but is not set by wing loading -that is Va -at least that's
my understanding.

Cheers