Humbled a few old and not-so-bold pilots as well. Even the A-4F (P-8 vice
P-408) accomplished that. That's first hand experience from both sides of
the equation.

R / John

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"John Carrier" wrote in message
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That pretty much sums it up (although IME the so-called super fox was
not so super when it was just man y mano).

Exactly where it excelled ... humbling the Gen 4 jets in 1v1.

R / John

No, it humbled young pilots who mistook the horse they rode for "good at
1v1."