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Old September 23rd 08, 04:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Suppose I wanted to fly to Angola...

On Sep 22, 5:02*pm, C J Campbell
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On 2008-09-22 13:32:02 -0700, es330td said:



I was talking recently with someone who said that their company needs
to send a few (5-6) people to do some work in Angola from Atlanta and
complained about the difficulty of flying there commercially. *This
made me curious about what it would take to do this in a private jet.
I asked my CFII this question (he is type rated for the Citation I)
and his answer was "Not in this Citation; it doesn't have the range."
He did say that a friend delivered a Citation I to South Africa solo
but it took him three days to get there. He's never personally flown
to Africa so while he said he'd look into it I thought I'd ask here as
someone might actually know.


I am going to assume that there is some sweet spot on the range-speed-
time-cost considerations based upon whatever the longest leg would
have to be for various routes and the cost/time involved with stopping
to refuel but I don't know much about this kind of aircraft, certainly
not enough to plan a trip.


I've never thought much about international flight so I am very
curious to see the suggestions for a flight like this.


TIA


I asked Jane. She used to plan trips like this for Kaiser Air. It can
be done, but it is going to take a few stops. However, flying into
Angola itself is tricky. You will need permission not only to enter
Angola, but also to overfly several somewhat hostile African nations.
You will also need to arrange passports, visas, and security for plane,
crew and passengers. Planning the return trip can be just as difficult.
Not least is getting back into the USA. It could take months to plan a
trip like this. There are flight service companies that specialize in
handling the details of such flights. If it is your first trip,
especially, you are best off relying on those who really know the
business.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


Normal route is either Atlanta-Johannesburg-Windhoek
(Namibia) or to London-JoBurg-Windhoek and then to Luanda. Our guys
usually get to Windhoek and the (privately-registered) company
aircraft picks them up and takes them into interior Angola. I'm not
sure if there's a reliable commercial carrier between Windhoek and
Luanda. Bus service at least, I'd think.
We flew the Calgary-London-JoBurg route last fall when
travelling to SA and Botswana. British Airways and South African
Express, both good outfits with good airplanes. SAX might have a
flight to Luanda. Check their website.

Dan