On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:38:41 -0700 (PDT), Andre Lieven
wrote:

There are plenty of bad ideas that just hang around almost forever:
"reality shows", "US health care is #1!", and so on. That doesn't
mean that they are either 1) good or 2) true.

If US health care isn't #1, why have you run away from the discussion in
rasff, Andre?
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