On Apr 10, 1:12*pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
AlexB wrote:

Now I was always thought that on an ILS the FAF was defined by
glideslope intercept which is the little lightning bolt on the NOS
plates. MAP was defined by being on GS and reaching the DA/DH.

I've been watching this plate and have been waving my flag since they
did this. I've got VOR and DME in my a/c but no ADF so I used to be
excluded from KPAE (or at leased forced onto the VOR approach) which
sucks because I'm based on KBFI. It looks like they've been adding DME
as a set of upgrades. Looking at the plates KTIW also decomissioned
their LOM and went to an ILS/DME setup the same as KPAE.

Neither KPAE nor KTIW have an ILS/DME approach. *There's no such animal.. *At
KPAE DME is required for the LOC/DME RWY 16R and VOR/DME RWY 16R approaches,
KTIW does not require DME for any approach.

You've just sent me off to the plates and you're quite right!

I'm still pleased about the dropping the ADF requirement though.

I don't have any of the old plates around. Did all this coincide with
removing the LOM? I definitely remember that PAE had one but don't
remember TIW.

Alex.