At 22:42 11 February 2004, Jj Sinclair wrote:
The same might happen when a sailplane is seen deliberately

spun in the pattern, don't you think?

where has it been stated that we do that in the pattern?
when I had this low spin re-enforcement demo'd for
me on the spin course i did, it was up wind of the
airfield and off pattern. every one ive seen at my
club is done like that also. one very inportant reason
we do this demo at our club is that we are a winch
site, so 800-1000 feet is a typical pull off height.