Of course they need to be in back of the 172,

No way around this? Ideally, the 5 yr old would be in front with you,
and dad would be in back with the 3 yr old.

Or leave the 3 yr old home. Are there any decent earphones for a 3 yr
old? That's a real small, real vulnerable kid. Just learning about
fears, death, etc. At least my granddaughter is.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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