From: (robert arndt)


(B2431) wrote in message

From: (Denyav)


But the Germans were no where
near building a reactor, much less a bomb. Thus the choice of moderator
was inconsequential.

Germans had not one but two graphite moderated reactors and one of them was
in Thuringer Forest,if Germans had no working reactor Hirosima and Nagazaki
could not be bombed anytime in 1945.
Did you ever wonder why the entries made to log book of 89.th Infantry
div.between 4;8. 45 1,35 PM and 4.11.45 7,35 PM are also among document
that were classified for 75 years?.

Where did you get that idea?

Are you suggesting the U.S. had not developed uranium and plutonium
enrichment facilities prior to May 1945?

Are you suggesting the U.S. had not built any form of reactor or pile prior
to May 1945?

The Little Boy bomb and Trinity were just waiting for uranium and plutonium
respectively.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Captured German uranium was used in the construction of the US atomic
bombs, seized from the Belgian Congo stocks Germany possessed. Germany
also had seperate atomic research facilities, Haigerloch being only
one. Another was working on a spherical reactor for power project as
well as the two radiological weapons found under construction at the
end of the war. Although Germany did not build a bomb itself it did
technology transfer uranium to Japan's program in occupied Korea
(Japan's Genzai Bakudan bomb)... which we still have little
information about (classified).
Further still, Germany also knew about the possibilities of a
thermonuclear weapon in 1944 and nuclear power for submarines.
One can only wonder what would have happened if Hitler had not
persecuted the Jews nor regarded the German atomic research project as
"Jewish Physics" with little funding and no Fuhrer directive to build
such a weapon (Hitler was preoccupied with the wasteful V-weapons
programs). Had the SS Scientific Branch harnassed the mindpower and
manpower of Europe for an official German bomb project there is little
doubt the Germans would have had the bomb first and used it, probably
in 1944.
Say what you want, but both Germany's and Japan's wartime atomic
projects are still not complete as "sensitve material" is still
classified for both. What we are being fed is the same old stale
stories of "they were way behind and we succeded because of our fears
of a Nazi bomb" when all they really had was a small unorganized
research program and impure graphite.
That is just not accurate enough...but makes good official US history.

The Manhattan team also had theories about nuclear power and thermonuclear
devices.

I know you have managed to convince yourself the Nazis, especially your beloved
SS, were the source of all modern technology but ask yourself why you feel the
need to constantly refer to classified documents that only you know the
contents of.

As for uranium the U.S. did capture a U-boat that contained either uranium
oxide or enriched uranium depending on whom you believe. Big deal. The U.S. had
ample uranium supplies and had been enriching uranium for at least a year. Your
Nazi buddies had no enrichment facilities aproaching the scale of Hanford and
Oak Ridge. If the captured Nazi uranium was used in the Little Boy bomb you
can't prove it.

As for your contention the SS pigs would have been able to produce a bomb by
1944 you need to provide some evidence. The Nazis did have the "mindpower" they
just never had the massive funding and man power Manhattan had. Had the pigs
put as much money into the bomb project as the U.S. did I would venture to say
Germany would have been bankrupt by 1942 and probably been defeated or forced
to sue for peace. There is now way the could have funded the war and the bomb
at the same time.

I believe the Nazi atom scientists were in thoroughly bugged quarters in
England at the time the bombs were dropped. They were shocked at how far off
they were in their estimations. They knew how far behind the curve they were.

I'm sorry your faith in the Nazi pigs is so blind that you have to rely on
mysterious classified documents to back up your claims. I put that in the same
dustbin I put the captured UFO garbage. What will you do when those mysterious
classified documents are declassified and they don't back you up? Did it ever
occur to you those documents may be classified simply to protect sources and
methods?

Question, do you celebrate Hitler's bithday by chanting "six million more?"

Dan, U. Air Force, retired