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Old March 5th 08, 04:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron
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Default Flaps check - great lesson learned

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:30:52 -0500, "Kobra" wrote:


"steve" wrote in message
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While recently getting checked out to fly a glass panel Cirrus, my
instructor, under the statement that the TAWS wasn't operating quite
right, reached down along the circuit panel while I was busy flying my
last instrument approach. As I entered the decent phase of a straight in
landing, I applied 50% flaps, then as I got near the runway, applied 100%
flaps and noticed that I was still coming in "different" than normal. I
did a beautiful landing and as we taxi'd off the runway, the instructor
asked if I noticed what was wrong. He had pulled the breaker on the
electronic flaps so I actually landed with no flaps extended. He stated
that I ALWAYS need to do visual verification that the flaps extended
properly on both sides, especially when they are electical.

It was a great lesson that I will never forget. I was also really pleased
with doing a good landing in an aircraft that wants to keep flying, even
with flaps extended.



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Thanks,

Steve


Steve,

Google Kobra and No Flaps and you will see my post(s) to the rec.aviation
group. Take a look at all the Monday morning quarterbacks that ripped me a
new one for not noticing the flaps didn't deploy.

All the holier-than-thou pilots who think that they would NEVER not notice
the flaps not coming out. Oh, how I must be a second-rate pilot in
*desperate* need of additional training for being so un inattentive.

This happened twice. Once to me and once to my partner. Neither of us
noticed, we only new that we were too fast and corrected the extra speed
with power reductions and trim. Basicly, an unwitting no-flap landing.

Kobra


Actually, there's no problem with no-flap landings in the typical spam
can or single engine glass jar. My instructor had me practice no flap
landings (172's) in case of electrical or mechanical failure. Also
taught me the use of slips in place of flaps to slow down and position
the aircraft for touchdown. Lots of fun.

Ron