Magnus Redin wrote:
Hi!

How do you propose to do this? It's been shown
time and time again
attempting to monitor 'civilian' reactors
doesn't work. Iraq, Iran,
Pakistan, India, Israel, South Africa, North
Korea - in which of
these cases was an attempt at monitoring civil
reactor successful at
stopping proliferation?

The monitoring has had 100% success in hindering
the monitored
reactors from being used for weapons manufacturing.
I do not claim
that monitoring the civilian facilities stops
proliferation, you have
to do more to assure that.

And in how many of these cases were the civilian
reactors actually
being used as part of the military nuclear
weapons program?

No civilian power producing reactors were used
as far as I know.
But I think some soviet plutonium producing
reactors have used the
excess heat generated, at least for district
heating. And the first
generation of UK magnox reactors might have
been designed for dual
use. But those were not among the countries
you listed, they built
their nucler weapons before any international
control systems and
before the economical implicatiosn of difefrent
designs were well
known.

And how do you propose to 'pressure' them?
Threaten sanctions by the
UN? That has worked soooo well in the past...
really stopped all the
nations listed above.

Treat them like south africa, that actually
worked, they have both
abandoned apartheid and scrapped their nuclear
weapons.

Carrot doesn't work. It has failed time and
time again. The UN is a
powerless, toothless organization who can
only pressure countries
that respond to pressure. Military dictatorships
and dictatorial
theocracies ignore international pressure
and do what they want.

I dont care about the regime, I am talking about
the people. The
Iranian, Iraqi, North Korean, etc people are
not evil, they need the
carrot. Dont give them a stick by striking civilian
assets.

I didn't notice Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Libya
responding to carrot.
Now that Afghanistan and Iraq were hit with
the stick Iran and Libya
are suddenly much more cooperative, and North
Korea is talking
(albeit sporadically).

And Libya is given some carrots now when they
are cooperating.
The North Korean leadership is quite mad, I
have no idea at all on
what would be wise to do there.

Best regards,

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North Korea? Those Stalinists are really flaky. Except for the UN delegation,
they have no idea how the rest of the world views them. When the NKs make
threats against the ROK, Japan, or even the U.S., they don't realize that
such threats don't bring respect, they bring contempt. And threats to sell
nuclear items elsewhere are likely to bring a "visit and search" blockade
to NK shipping, and any nuclear or missile material being seized. I do think
the NKs realize that if they ever do pop a missile with nuclear, chem, or
bio warheads against any target in WESTPAC, they will be nuked in retaliation
by the U.S. (at least that's the hope)

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