"Dashii" wrote in message
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"kallijaa" wrote in message
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"Chris Norris" wrote in message
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Through simming, you could gain some useful IFR procedural training
prior
to
flight, but don't kid yourself that it would be worth the crippling
effect
it will have with respect to primary flight training.

Simming can be a lot of fun and it is an engrossing hobby. It can
provide
simulated flight experience to those who cannot participate in the
real
thing, but for non-flyers it can hinder or even destroy any chances
they
might have at success in subsequent flying training. If you want to
learn
to fly in the real world, put the toy away.
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Well, I have been simming with MS-FS since the 'green sticks' version
- and two years ago I stepped into the cockpit of a Cessna to begin
some flying lessons for real.

With all those simming hours clocked up I impressed the instructor
with my instant ability able to read the gauges and understand the
information they presented. We had a pretty good discussion in ground
school and he even asked if I had taken lessons before as I seemed to
have the physics and basic principles taken care of.

At most private flying schools, most instructors will be sales oriented
and
are apt to tickle your ear. They are not likely to chase you away by
telling you that your experience with flight simulation was a mistake
that
may cause serious problems. The drill is to sign you up, get your money
and
deal with your problems, in that order. That's the business they're in.

I just don't agree with your 'crippling effect' comment as I had no
problems flying the Cessna for real and using peripheral vision for
situation awareness (something that's obviously missing when you're
staring at a computer monitor)

Peripheral vision? If you had persistently relied upon peripheral
vision
for situation awareness at a military flying school you would have been
a
candidate for elimination. You would have been taught to "keep your
head
out of the cockpit and on a swivel." In other words, during contact
flight,
your instructor would want to see your head up and in constant motion,
traversing a very wide angle . You would be taught to cross check
instruments quickly and return to the routine of turning your head so
that
you could see directly your situation. Good peripheral vision would be
a
requirement for your acceptance in the program, but you would not make
the
grade relying on it as you suggest.

Just like I do in the sim! G

Dashii

Oh, really? I recall you describing how you use "outside views." How do
you access those outside views and where are your eyes focused during that
process? Let me guess: You switch to outside view using your keyboard or a
switch on your flight controls. Am I getting warm? Then you look at those
outside views on the same display used to view the instrument panel and the
slim strip of the sim world atop. Warmer?

By that process you are training your head to habitually remain stationary
and your eyes to look forward at all times. Those are the kind of habits
that hinder progress in flight training.

Kalijaa