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Old July 5th 14, 12:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default How does one land upside down following a PT3?

On Friday, July 4, 2014 3:10:33 PM UTC-4, Jonathon May wrote:
I have spoken to a member of the club concerned.

The elevator was not correctly connected ,it was a winch launch and the

pilot

pulled the release as soon as he he realised .no confirmation on how it

ended

up inverted .

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The club have formal double control checks but the pilot some how managed

to ovoid them .

The lesson is clear

GET SOME ONE TO DO POSSITIVE CHECKS



Jon




Thanks for the update and clarification, Jon!

Uli
















At 14:26 03 July 2014, Dan Marotta wrote:

Excellent point about not looking fast enough.




We always joke about "helicopter landings" in high winds, but the


subconscious mind wants to see the ground moving past at a familiar


rate. We also used to laugh at how "flatlanders" would come in too


slowly at high altitude airports and drop it in because the ground


seemed to be moving by too quickly. A few weeks ago I was landing in 32


kt winds in Salida, CO and the urge to push the nose down was very


strong due to my low ground speed. Fortunately, I got a glimpse of the


airspeed indicator...




Dan Marotta




On 7/2/2014 6:25 PM, JJ Sinclair wrote:


We had an accident at Siskiyou County a few years back that looked a


lot

like the posted photo. Wind was blowing a good 40 knots direct crosswind


to

the N-S runway, so the pilot wisely decided to land into the wind on a


taxiway. GPS trace showed touched down at 40 ground speed which would


have

been about 80 IAS!


Probably flying something like 70 for potential wind-shear, he turned


final and felt the ground wasn't going by as fast as it usually did, so


he

sped up! Anyway, he caught a wing tip shortly after touch down and did a


full blown flying ground-loop. Boom broke during the first 90 degrees,


but

it wasn't over. Left wing was stopped, but the right wing was


accelerating.

This resulted in a rolling-turning maneuver that left the ship upside


down

with a relatively undamaged wing on top of the inverted fuselage. Pilot


is

still with us with nothing more than a broken foot!


JJ