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Old June 4th 08, 06:53 PM posted to sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,us.military.army
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On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:04:26 GMT, Vince Brannigan
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So there you are, a possibility that US Chinese may overtake the Jews
in messing up your minds in the not too distant future.


Not at all

Chinese people are fine as soon as they learn to think for themselves

The thugs in in power in the PRC are determined to prevent that

Vince


This long thread is evidence that the Chinese are already messing up
your minds from across the Pacific and in your own front yard (1.2%.)
Do the South Asians (Indians), Russians, Europeans, Arabs, anyone else
out there?, pose the same amount of concern about your place in the
global scene? Nope. China has displaced the USSR as your enemy #1.

It is not a status China seeks. This is a status you had to invent to
justify your nation crushing, nation bankrupting expenditures on your
military. Can you use this military for its stated purpose? Highly
unlikely as Chinese foreign policy and military doctrine seek to avoid
just such a confrontation. China can do this without being militarily
weak enough to buckle under a (US) threat over economic competition.
Do you need two ocean carrier battlegroups to invade a third tier
country in the Middle East, Africa or South America? Obviously not.
China gets that honor by default.

Reagan bankrupted the USSR and broke it apart by bluff, a brilliant
cost free maneuver, to make the USSR overspend itself into netherland.
This time round you are conning yourselves into bankruptcy. I won't
go into the details that will fill a book. Just go visit any large
bookstore and you will find shelves full of weighty tomes on the US
national quagmire across many sectors- military, political, economic,
technological, social. Your own pundits do a much better job than I
can ever hope to and they are not under any authoritarian government
gun to do so.

Meanwhile China does what China does. That is to modernize and make
money, build its infrastructures. To lift from poverty her 400
millions still poor peoples, to earn a very modest above $2 a day. To
provide the education and technologies to enable her peoples to be a
first world brainpower. Secure through fair trade and non threatening
diplomacy the key natural resources needed for development. To do the
same to develop markets for Chinese manufactures. Win friends and
influence across the globe.

There's not one peep about the Chinese political system within China.
The Government is genuinely popular and their policies have
practically unanimous support. Watch the Beijing Olympics and see for
yourselves the genuine public mood in China today. It will be the
background information between sporting events I will be on the
lookout for. There will be the Beijing "filtered" broadcasts. With
thousands of foreign journalists there for the occasion, and with a
promise that they will have free access, you can make a real time
comparison on whose version of China is closer to the truth. You can
bet your mama's tits that foreign journalists will do their best to
find chinks (pun intended) in China's armor.

There's not one peep about the Chinese political system from abroad
except from rich white guy nations who are at a loss on how to respond
to China's development juggernaut. To the rest of the developing
world the Chinese system provides a fascinating study on how to
achieve rapid modernization and yet maintain authoritative governance.
They all seek to find which part of the development formula to
modernity and prosperity they can adopt for themselves. Western style
democracy has become an anathema for the chaos and poverty that came
with it. 60 years of post war experience in the former imperial
colonies and economic semi-colonies is proof enough. Read this seminal
paper "The Beijing Consensus, Joshua Cooper Ramo"
http://fpc.org.uk/fsblob/244.pdf to get a good idea of what is
happening to your world.

Since these (China) developments mess up your minds, a state of mind
induced by none other than yourselves, wouldn't you say that we
(China) can fight a more effective battle than you? And China deosn't
even have to move a finger to effect it. You will continue to lose
this fight as long as you maintain archaic patronizing attitudes like

Chinese people are fine as soon as they learn to think for themselves

The thugs in in power in the PRC are determined to prevent that.


Cheers. Or as we say in Chinese "Kan Pei."
(Kan Pei = Bottoms Up Peng Pei = Cheers (a sip or two) If you mean
Cheers, .... When you drink with the Chinese, they would toast their
glasses lower than ...)