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Old August 20th 18, 05:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul T[_4_]
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Default Advice re. Nimbus 3 OR 4Dt?

At 16:21 20 August 2018, Alex wrote:
We had a Nimbus 3D in our club.

Rigging is fairly easy, but time consuming because of the number of

parts
a=
nd control connections. The inner wing weighs roughly 85kg, which is
fairly=
heavy but it is at least not very big.

The Nimbus surely is not a beginners glider but really nothing to be
afraid=
of. Control responsiveness is slow but effective. Stick forces are

normal
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and not particularly heavy (as in the single-seater Nimbus 3). Landing
flap=
s and effective spoilers allow for good approach control (better than

you
w=
ould expect from such a large glider).

There are some quirks: In landing flap configuration the aileron
effectiven=
ess is reduced. Especially in cross wind conditions you better land in
ther=
malling flaps (which works absolutely fine). With full water ballast the
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ngs loose some ground clearance. On aerotows keeping the wings

level
requi=
res some attention. Also on landing I came across some club members

who
had=
consistent difficulties keeping the wings level.

Winch launching without water was never an issue and common

practice at
our=
club. But, you really don't want to drop a wing!

The series of structural failures with Nimbus are all(?) related to high
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titude high speed flying. I would not worry too much unless you plan

to go
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booming around Africa, Australia or western US.

Maintenance scales with the glider. Lot's of parts and fittings which

will
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wear and need your attention sooner or later. Especially on used

gliders
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e small issues have often started to pile up and keep you busy.

From a design perspective the Nimbus is pretty robust. The tailplane is
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mediocre Schempp-Hirth design and the water ballast will start

leaking
soo=
ner or later (as in most gliders). The outer spoiler cables tend to break
o=
r lose their adjustment. Other than that the Nimbus is just a bigger
Janus/=
Duo Discus, which are both proven and popular designs.




You might want to consider an ASH 25 instead - one of the biggest
sellers in open class.